Cummings says Matt Hancock should have been 'fired for 20 things'

Dominic Cummings said that Secretary of State for Health Matt Hancock should have been fired for multiple offenses, a move the then cabinet secretary also recommended.

The former chief assistant to the Prime Minister told the Commons Committee today: “As in much of the government system, there have been many brilliant people at relatively young and middle levels who have been terribly disappointed with senior management.

“I think the health minister should have been fired on at least 15, 20 things, including lying all over the place in one session after another in the cabinet room and in public.

“There is no doubt that many elderly people have been far, far disastrously below the standards the country can rightly expect. I think the Minister of Health is certainly one of those people.

“I said repeatedly to the Prime Minister that he should be fired, as well as the Cabinet Secretary and many other high-ranking people.”

Mr Cummings said one of Matt Hancock’s lies was that everyone got the treatment they deserved at the first peak when “many people died in appalling circumstances”.

The former chief assistant to the Prime Minister, asked to provide evidence of the Minister of Health’s lie, told the Commons Committee: “The examples are numerous. I mean, over the summer he said that anyone who needed treatment got the treatment they needed.

“He knew this was a lie because he had been informed of the first climax by the chief scientific advisor and the chief physician himself, and we were specifically told that people were not getting the treatment they deserved, many people were dying terrible circumstances. “

Mr Cummings said the situation on Downing Street in mid-March was like “an Independence Day scene with Jeff Goldblum where the aliens are here and your whole plan is broken and you need a new plan”.

Mr Cummings said March 14th that Boris Johnson was told that models showing the peak “weeks and weeks and weeks away” in June were “totally wrong”.

He said the Prime Minister had been warned: “The NHS will be smashed in weeks, we really have days to act.”

Mr Cummings said the cabinet secretary suggested that the prime minister go on TV and tell people to catch the coronavirus like it was chickenpox.

Giving evidence to the Commons Commons on Health and Social Affairs and Science and Technology, he said, “We are in the Prime Minister’s office, the cabinet has been discussing the herd immunity plan.

“The Cabinet Secretary said,” Prime Minister, you should go on TV tomorrow and explain the herd immunity plan to people and that, like the old chicken pox parties, it takes people to get this disease because that’s how we get herd immunity by September. “

“I said, ‘Mark (Sedwill), you have to stop using that chickenpox analogy, it’s wrong’ and he said ‘why’ and Ben Warner said ‘because chickenpox doesn’t spread exponentially and kill hundreds of thousands of people.’

“To emphasize, this was not something the cabinet secretary came up with, he said what the official health ministry advice was to him.”

Mr Cummings said then-Cabinet Secretary Lord Mark Sedwill told Boris Johnson that he had lost faith in Matt Hancock’s honesty.

The former chief assistant to the Prime Minister told the Commons Committee: “In mid-April, shortly before the Prime Minister and I were diagnosed with Covid, the Minister of Health in the cabinet room informed us that everything was okay with PPE, we had everything covered, etc. Etc.

“When I got back, almost the first meeting I had in the cabinet room was about the PPE disaster and how we were actually very small, hospitals across the country were running out.

“The Secretary of State said at that meeting that this was Simon Stevens’s fault, this was the Chancellor’s fault. It was not my fault. They blocked permits for all kinds of things.”

“I said to the Cabinet Secretary, please investigate and find out if it is true.

“The Cabinet Secretary came back to me and said it was completely wrong. I lost faith in the Foreign Minister’s honesty at these meetings.

“The Cabinet Secretary said that to me and the Cabinet Secretary said that to the Prime Minister.”

Mr Cummings said he had recorded the comments and would submit them to the committee.

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